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A Junior High Ministry podcast for Youth Workers! If you’re in Youth Ministry or Student Ministry (same thing) we hope you like Controlled Chaos Podcast! Part of the Youth Ministry Podcast Network and in partnership with Christ in Youth

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Justin Herman  Linktr.ee/heyjustinherman

Kurt Johnston

Jeff Henderson 

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 Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

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Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking the time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

 

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Who is on this episode:

Kurt Johnston

Justin Herman

Cora Jakes Coleman

Andrew Root

John Luzadder

 

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Go to Linktr.ee/heyjustinherman for all his links! 

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking the time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

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Christ in Youth, our exclusive podcast partner!!!! For info about CIY CLICK HERE

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Find Controlled Chaos Podcast on:
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WE ARE PART OF THE YOUTH MINISTRY PODCAST NETWORK, Link HERE!           Featuring: Controlled Chaos Podcast, Youth Ministry United, MultiMulti Podcast, The Fringe Youth Worker Podcast and Why We Stayed Podcast 

Great podcasts make up the Youth Ministry Podcast Network.  For more info on the network and to check out other podcasts go to youthministrypodcastnetwork.com

Go to linktr.ee/controlledchaospodcast for all our links! 

Guests for this special episode:

Bianca Juarez Olthoff

Jeff Henderson

Tim Harlow

Chris Hogan

Ken Coleman

Will Cumby

Dr. Andrew Root

Mark Matlock

Richard Hamilton

Mark Oestreicher 

 

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Go to Linktr.ee/heyjustinherman for all his links! 

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking the time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

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Who is on this episode:

Kurt Johnston

Justin Herman

Tim Harlow

Phyllis Fagell

Kenny Campbell

Links: Controlled Chaos Book,What Made Jesus Mad Book,Youth Ministry Podcast Network, Middle School Matters Book 

Halloween tips:

  • Get involved in helping with the kids ministry event

 

Volunteer Cycle (Justin and Kurt)

  • Enlist
  • Equip
  • Empower
  • Encourage

 

Tim Harlow author of What made Jesus Mad

  • Don’t give the students an inauthentic Jesus
  • Make your teaching about the vision and passion of Jesus
    • He was not always warm and cuddly
  • You can have righteous anger without adding to the problem
    • Jesus showed restraint at times where we show anger

 

Phyllis, Middle School Matters

  • Do not minimize their distress. Middle School heartbreak is real heartbreak
  • You will build a wall if you dismiss their pain
  • If they ask about dating engage them in communication and ask open ended questions
  • You need to worry about the kids doing the bullying too and teach them what it means to be kind and civil
  • Encouraging girls in leadership
    • Embrace a broader definition of leadership. You do not have to be outward facing to be a leader.

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Go to Linktr.ee/heyjustinherman for all his links! 

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking the time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

Play Now

Christ in Youth, our exclusive podcast partner!!!! CIY.com/chaos

WE ARE PART OF THE YOUTH MINISTRY PODCAST NETWORK, Link HERE!           Featuring: Controlled Chaos Podcast, Youth Ministry United, MultiMulti Podcast, The Fringe Youth Worker Podcast and Why We Stayed Podcast Great podcasts make up the Youth Ministry Podcast Network.  For more info on the network and to check out other podcasts go to youthministrypodcastnetwork.com

Go to linktr.ee/controlledchaospodcast for all our links! 

Who is on this episode:

Kurt Johnston

Justin Herman

Mark Oestreicher 

Kenda Creasy Dean

 

 

Mark Oestreicher 

  • There is no reason why student leadership should be reserved high schoolers. Give them a taste of the leadership inside them if they are willing.

    • If you have them combined let the jr. high lead too in it
    • If you have separate have one in the jr. high ministry also
  • You want them to participate in things that will form them in powerful ways as their identities are being formed

Excellence in Jr. High Student Leadership Justin, Kurt, and some spiders

  • Give them opportunities to be involved

    • Don’t make your excellent definition so high they cannot participate
    • They will be wrong, but you need to affirm them in a positive way
  • The best way to learn leadership is to learn it in the trenches
    • They love to see their friends owning things
  • Ask other areas if they are open to serving in other areas besides children’s ministry and jr. high ministry
    • It gives them another caring adult in their life

 

Kenda Dean Student Leadership

  • If you want kids to be engaged as adults get them engaged as children
  • Give them a “load-bearing” role
  • Don’t hold on to tight to the reigns—never do ministry alone
  • With a team, you can share the authority
  • You need a diverse team in outlook and demographics (cause that what the kids are)
  • You must be a trustworthy colleague
  • Learn to pastor your bosses (teach the kids to care for those in authority)
  • Learn how to do youth ministry to grown-ups.
    • We are good at meeting kids where they are but not adults.

Discussion Questions:

  1. Where are our students serving?
  2. Are we allowing middle schoolers to serve as leaders?
  3. Does each of us have someone to do youth ministry with?
  4. Are we meeting our adults where they are as good as we reach our students?

 

Links:

CIY WEBCAST

Mark Oestreicher Books

Mark Oestreicher Twitter

Kenda Dean Books

Kenda Dean Twitter

 

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Go to Linktr.ee/heyjustinherman for all his links! 

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking the time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

Play Now

Junior High Webcast coming up with Kurt and Justin on July 2, 11 am CST on building a magnetic middle school ministry. How you can be attractive and missional that kids are drawn too with a missional aspect.

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Christ in Youth, our exclusive podcast partner!!!!

For more information about

  • Christ in Youth our Podcast Partner
  • Email Sign-ups
  • Places to find the podcast
  • Our Youtube Page
  • Controlled Chaos Blog
  • Social Media Links
  • Campference

Go to linktr.ee/controlledchaospodcast for all our links! 

Intro by Andy Stanley

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman Host

Kurt Johnston Host

Scott Rubin, Junior High Ministry EXPERT (Kurt's best friend)

Mike Thomas, Why we Stayed Podcast

Michele Anderson, Host Talking Squirrels Podcast

Samantha, Girl World EXPERT

Dr. Andrew Root, Youth Ministry Theology EXPERT

Jeff Wallace, Student Leadership EXPERT

Why mic skills are essential with Justin and Kurt

  • If the audio is terrible everything is terrible no matter how good the video/graphics
  • If the person is ill-prepared no matter how much planning it will drain the energy of the room
  • Consider using a handheld—the audio quality is much better and you can use to your advantage with its distance
  • Students will see a potential future for themselves in the person on the microphone
  • Never give the mic away if you don’t know what they will say.
  • If you don’t know whether to use a mic or not—use a mic
  • You have to train people on how to be on a mic—it is not a natural thing

 

Why you should tune into the CIY webcast

  • It's on the internet, and the internet is awesome
  • Where else do you get a half hour of training for free?
  • This is stuff you can give to your leaders.
  • It is not long and drawn out (only 1 hr)
  • Everything is more significant (than the first) with this webcast
  • It will be encouraging and give you a different way of thinking about things

Scott Rubin—Director of Student Ministries at Willow Creek Church—pastoring with high school in mind

  • Look at them and imagine where they will be in a few years

    • What do we need to be thinking about?
  • Identify gifts in those years and put them on that track to develop it
    • Think ahead but do not get ahead of themselves
    • Give them opportunities to leverage it
    • Sometimes the disruptive kid is the leader. Talk to them about it
  • See if there is an upperclassman that they could be and have them hang around them.
    • Call out to them what you see in them
    • Engage the parents in any way that you can. Some kids might not show themselves, and parents can be a great insight.
  • With leaders moving up or not always remember where you are trying to get the students.
  • Never forget what it is like to be a teenager
  • Never do youth ministry alone

 

Mike Thomas—Why we stayed podcast

  • Everyone that has stayed/left a different story but they all have friction.

    • How will you respond?
  • When church and God are blended, they become upset with everything. Their whole idea is broken.

 

Michele Anderson—talking squirrels podcast—adolescent development

  • Early adolescence 10-13
  • It can help to tailor to how the schools do it
  • Reasons for a 7th-9thministry
    • With longer adolescence, students need more time to develop
  • How can we give coaching on mental development
    • Ask them hard questions—they can handle it
  • The psychological difference between boys and girls
    • Girls will grow faster in every way

 

Samantha—Jr. High Girls

  • The enemy is attacking mainly through technology. Distracting us. And taking away our identity in Jesus with something else.
  • Women should not prove their ability by everything that men do cause men do not do that for women.
    • Elizabeth Elliot—Let me be a Woman
  • Topics Girls need to hear
    • Love, Suicide/depression, homosexuality, technology
  • Always express love

 

Dr. Andrew Root

  • There are so many things that students need, does God need anything?

    • Don’t think that God needs anything
    • But He is a God that acts for us
    • Out of the love and inner love of the Trinity out of the surplus of their passion they reach out to share their love
    • God chooses to become vulnerable because of his compassion, mercy, and friendship
    • He reaches out for a desire to love and care not because he needs it

 

Jeff Wallace—Student leadership

  • Gather at most one a month or once a quarter

    • They are busy (and so are their parents who drive them)
    • Have a good plan because time is precious
    • It is not about a shirt or a title
    • Leadership is about keeping your word—have them value being on the leadership team.

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Go to controlledchaos.fun/Justin for all his links! 

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking the time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

Play Now

Junior High Webcast coming up with Kurt and Justin on July 2, 11 am CST on building a magnetic middle school ministry. How you can be attractive and missional that kids are drawn too with a missional aspect.

SIGN UP HERE!!!!

Christ in Youth, our exclusive podcast partner!!!!

For more information about

  • Christ in Youth our Podcast Partner
  • Email Sign-ups
  • Places to find the podcast
  • Our Youtube Page
  • Controlled Chaos Blog
  • Social Media Links
  • Campference

Go to controlledchaos.fun/linktree for all our links! 

Links from this episode:

Youth Ministry Dog

Ministry Dog Twitter

Justin on Matt Lewis's Podcast

Isaac Morehouse

Crash Your Career

Niche Down

Campference

Magnetic Junior High Ministry

 

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman LINKTREE

Kurt Johnston

Youth Ministry Dog

Matt Lewis

Isacc Morehouse

Anthony Vargas

EPISODE OUTLINE!

Junior High Webcast coming up with Justin and Kurt on July 2 11 am CST on magnetic middle school ministry. How you can be attractive and missional that kids are drawn too with a missional aspect.

How to make the game time the best it can be—Justin and Kurt (04:37)

  • Design it around the person with the least amount of skill in the room.
  • Don’t do it by gender.
  • Don’t try and force the game into your theme.
  • Don’t force the kids to participate if they don’t want to play.
  • Fun isn’t always games—it can be a skit or a bit on stage.
  • Payoff must be equal or greater than the setup.
  • Be clear and fair. Jr. Higher’s are justice oriented.
  • Once in a while figure out how to involve specials needs students
  • Do fun games but don’t make it the focus.
  • Don’t apologize for doing games. They build trust and learn teamwork.

Youth Ministry Dog (22:30)

Interview Tips (30:43 ) Matt Lewis

  • If you do what you say and show up and honor the commitment, you will be fine
  • Don’t have a scarcity mentality. Fifteen minutes can turn into hours of content when the publicist tells others you honored the agreement.

Isaac Morehouse (35:03) CEO of Crash and Founder of Praxis

  • Find something besides a degree to add to your resume to show your skill, and you have done something.

    • Intern for free to learn the skills
  • Do not be afraid to fail or experiment to find the solution
  • Dominate your niche
  • Two main things matter in the market place
    • Create Value
    • Prove you can create value
    • Don’t do things you hate
    • Don’t do things you are terrible at
  • Your resume needs to be more than bullet points
  • Narrow down the companies you are applying to and do something extraordinary
  • Find a need and show it to them (make them a Facebook page and give it to them, send them a logo if it is low resolution, offer to work for free)
  • Create a project that shows your skills in a tangible way

Anthony Vargas (1:02:03) 7 Jr. High Tips

  1. Know the name of Jr. High Students, leaders, and parents.
  2. Every Monday, pick five students and send them a letter.
  3. Try to interact with Jr. high students five senses when teaching the Bible
  4. Embrace their digital world
  5. Go out and evangelize with your students. They need to see it lived out.
  6. The feedback of students is vital.
  7. The only thing they need from you is a heart that has been with Jesus.

 

Discussion Questions:

  1. How are we strategically using our game time? What should we start doing, stop doing, and keep doing?
  2. Have you/we reached out to someone outside the church for a meeting? If so did you/we honor them or leave a bad taste about you or our organization? How can you/we improve?
  3. What is your unique intersection of skills and abilities?
  4. Do we know all of our volunteer’s names? Do they know their kid’s names?
  5. What have we learned from our students? When was the last time we asked them (if ever)?

 

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

Go to controlledchaos.fun/Justin for all his links! 

Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking the time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

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