Controlled Chaos Podcast Junior High Middle School Youth Ministry Justin Herman

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Justin Herman

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Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

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Who is on this episode:

Kurt Johnston

Justin Herman

Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

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Question or Show ideas? Email Justin!

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking the time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

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Who is on this episode:

Kurt Johnston

Justin Herman

Mark Oestreicher 

Charlie Kirk

Chris and Emily Norton

Student Leadership Tip #4 (Mark Oestreicher)

• Consider a leadership community rather than single serving leadership teams
  • All the teams in one
  • Adult and student leaders 

Justin and Kurt--topics to teach about leadership and servanthood (9:00)

• Every other week do an inner quality and outer quality of a leader (Kurt)
• Teaching ownership and learning from it (be able to fess up) (Justin)
• Servant leadership (Kurt)
• Following up on visitors (Kurt)
• Don’t be a click (Kurt)
• Plan an event (Kurt)
• Honesty and timeliness (Kurt)
• Generosity (Kurt)
• Leverage Influence (Kurt)
  • Compassion
  • On marginalized people
• Don’t do it alone (Justin)
• Accountability (Justin)
• Skill of assessment (gifts and wiring) (Justin)
• Give feedback (Justin)

Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA

• A strong message can create a strong movement
• Students are looking for a purpose to believe in
• People are not correct just because they have degrees and someone else is a student
• It just takes one person telling a student that they can do something good
• Always ask more questions than you get asked
• Don’t look at any interaction as a waste of time
• 1 thing to tell students—embrace failure. Everyone will fail at something

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Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

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Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

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Junior High Webcast coming up with Kurt and Justin on July 2, 11 am CST on building a magnetic middle school ministry. How you can be attractive and missional that kids are drawn too with a missional aspect.

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Intro by Eryn Aubey, Christ in Youth

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman Host

Kurt Johnston Host

Matt Deprez Fuller Youth Institute

Jonathan Morrow Director of Cultural Engagement and Immersion at Impact 360 Institute

00:37 Welcome

01:15 We talk about Joel Olsteen

05:11 Teaching Topics

24:31 Matt Duprez, The Importnace of Grandparents

44:40 Jonathan Morrow, talking about Generationn Z

Teaching Topics with Justin and Kurt

• If you could only teach 3 topics (and the first 3 don’t count)
  • Identity
  • Sex/Dating
  • Spiritual Gifts
  • Wisdom (Justin)
  • Life of Christ (Kurt)
  • Misunderstood people of the Bible (Justin)
  • Fruit of the Spirit (Kurt)
  • The “other”—a mission series on how to make disciples (Justin)
  • Choices and their consequences (Kurt)

Matt Deprez (Fuller Youth Institute)—Grandparents faith on young people

• Proximity Matters. Faith does not go up if they are closer but it does increase faith maturity—it skyrockets if they live with 50 miles.
  • Technology can replace proximity in a way. Video chatting is huge and do it to eat meals together.
• Grandparents shaped issues of identity, belonging, and purpose rather than spiritual discipline
  • You develop properly being around experts and that applies to faith too
• Faith modeling is HUGE
  • It will shape the maturity of the child.
  • Reading the Bible and serving constantly helped and led to better conversations
  • Send pictures, stories, and verses if you do not live close 

Jonathan Morrow—Generation Z 

• The first “Post-Christian” generation
  • 10% Boomers, 7% gen x, 6% millennials, 4% gen z have a Biblical Worldview (Barna)
• Oldest Gen Z is just heading into college. 2x likely as adults to identity as atheist. 34% are “nones”. 58% agree there is no one true religion
• “How I feel” and “what is true for me “is their default response—they are Christian relativists
  • Change from feeling questions to thinking questions
• Find a way to disrupt them.
  • Use provocative questions
  • Get Christianity back into the realm of reality
• We need to have as sophisticated conversations in church as they are having online. There is age appropriate ways to handle these conversations.
  • We want to help walk them to good answers.
  • We cant just say nothing or they may “outgrow” their faith

Discussion Questions:

1. If you could teach any topic what would it be?
2. How are we utilizing the grandparents in our church?
3. Are we using “feeling” questions or “thinking” questions for our group questions?
4. How do we make our environments to make students feel welcome?
5. How are we disrupting their rhythm?
6. Are we having sophisticated conversations with our students?

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Jonathan's Website

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Jonathan's Twitter

GenZ Lab

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Justin Herman

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Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

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Recruiting Volunteers—Justin and Kurt

1. Why Summer is the best time to recruit leaders
   • You have a lot of fun events and gives people a taste of students at their craziest. Get a leader to see the beauty in that and they will go crazy over them in group.
   • You can’t take the summer off from recruiting cause fall is coming
2. Language to use
   • What did you do last year to say you moved the needle on spiritual life in me and around me?
     • No matter the answer ask them about investing in a Jr. High Student this year. Everyone had someone or wished they had someone and they can pay it forward or be the person they needed.

3. Don’t say someone’s no for them
   • Make the ask and let them say no. Don’t be afraid to ask
4. Have a 2-3 minute elevator pitch
5. Your best recruiters are people already serving and attending.
   • Who in their circle can they ask?
   • Get students to ask.
6. Invite them into something specific
7. Don’t have eyes bigger than your stomach
   • Are you ready if you grew by 10 leaders tomorrow? Is there is a plan and process in place so they are not in the queue for 6 months?

Katie Edwards (DYM Podcast and Saddleback Church)

• Connecting with females in your youth ministry
  • Focus on the times you are with them weekly. Have those spaces to have significant conversations.
  • Healthy touch is important
    • A high five is touch. It does not always have to be a hug.
  • Great eye contact and get rid of distractions. Give warmth in your voice and how you ask questions
• Keeping volunteers
  • Create a family community that will minister to the family (their students)
• Katie-isms to cast vision and leadership
  • People over protocol, people over programs. Love people well. The goal is love and care for people if they are in the church or not.
• Innovation and Newness to the ministry
  • Never Stop Learning. Learning leads to innovation
  • Evolve with what’s best for the kids—think of new ways to communicate
  • When brainstorming make sure you have different thinkers, ages, and other
  • different types of people
  • Don’t skip the debrief—successful idea/event or not
• Make sure you understand the audience. The more you know the lower your frustration will be and help you be more effective
• Practice and experience things together with a middle schooler. (serving, learning scripture, etc)
• Missions
  • Getting them into environments with they partner with the local church in other spaces
    • Expands their view of the kingdom
    • Helps them see outside of themselves
  • Middle schoolers are fearless and are willing to step into things and having a life changing experience like that can get them into next level ministry
  • Find an organization that your church trusts to take care of the “scary stuff” and then you can just be with the students

Mike Branton (Christ in Youth)

• Environments—Where you meet is just as important as what you are meeting about
  • How will they hear if we are not intentional about the space
  • First impression for families
    • You may only get one chance with a parent. Make your space so it looks like you knew they were coming.
  • You don’t have an excuse for not being intentional with what you have
  • Having a clean space is vital.
  • It is an act of worship to have a clean space (Think tabernacle in OT)
  • Things your environment should help communicate
    • Signage (from street to seat)
    • Safety
    • Specific age (how do we say this space is for you)
    • Broken window (kids will break more and trash it) if it is pristine they will be less likely to break and dirty it up.
  • Portable is key if the space is not yours
    • You can’t just leave your stuff if it is a multi-purpose room
  • Sometimes make the space smaller (30 kids in a 300 person room is daunting). Curtains or defined spaces within the environment. Have a goal to fill it.
  • Celebrate the things that you want repeated
    • Camp, baptisms, volunteers. Use the walls, floor, bathroom to tell a story
  • You are trying to creature culture and environment is a lot of that.
    • Your environment should drive the mission home not make people want to drive home
  • Talk to parents, students, and student leaders about what they think of the space

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Kurt Johnston

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Mike Branton Mike's Twitter

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Justin Herman

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Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

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Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

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Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do is hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

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 Intro done by: Chad Daugherty, Middle School Pastor , Church at the Mall, Lakeland Campus

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Show Outline:

Host Justin Herman and Kurt Johnston discuss all things about teaching. They talk about the importance of teaching both formally and informally, being prepared, teaching in series, and what junior higher’s are the most interested in. They also give great practical tips on teaching and how it should align with church culture. Kurt and Justin tell personal experiences and funny stories along the way. You won’t want to miss it!

0:36 Piece of encouragement from Kurt
0:50 “Remember you’re placing seeds that you may not see grow for a long time but don’t place your value and success in what you see today.” -Kurt Johnston
1:13 Controlled Chaos book COMING SOON!
2:18 Lets talk about teaching
3:01 Kurt mentions Chapter Talking about Jesus from Controlled Chaos Book
3:30 “The areas that really affect teaching is their intellectual development and spiritual development.” -Kurt Johnston
3:50 Teaching is happening always
4:06 “Everything about your ministry teaches something.” -Kurt Johnston
5:46 Go on Facebook and invite some friends for a GIVEAWAY
6:11 Best lesson Justin learned
7:55 Informal teaching is just as important as formal teaching
9:38 Be prepared but don’t over prepare.
9:56 Kurt explains the most important minute in lesson
10:08 Give them handles
10:12 “Every lesson should help them be doer’s of the word not just hearers of the word.” -Kurt Johnston
11:10 Students love stories
12:50 XP3 Orange Curriculum
15:37 Kurt explains the relation of church culture to teaching
16:27 Kurt’s preferred way to teach
18:30 Find staples to cover every year
18:40 Should there be a teaching on sex?
19:50 Informing parents for series on wisdom and John
20:46 Any volatile topic parents must be informed
21:30 Kurt gets in trouble
22:09 Justin tells hilarious story
23:35“Teaching is a way we partner with parents.” -Justin Herman
23:54 Kurt loves teaching in series
25:21 Payoff has to be greater than set up
26:34 Tips on teaching multiple services
28:08 Use objects for lessons
29:14 “Leave them wanting more.” -Kurt Johnston
29:25 Central Christian College of the Bible "

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman- Sandals Church

Kurt Johnston- Saddleback Church

Things Mentioned:

Controlled Chaos Book by Kurt Johnston and Justin Herman
Scott Ruben from Willow Creek

Central Christian College of the Bible, Moberly Missouri (where Justin went to college)

ORANGE- The XP3 Orange Curriculum 

Our Controlled Chaos Podcast Partner CIY, Christ in Youth.

CIY- Christ in Youth  

Our Sponsors. 

Central Christian College of the Bible, Moberly Missouri (where Justin went to college)

ORANGE- The XP3 Orange Curriculum 

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Meet the HOST!

Justin Herman

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Question or Show ideas? Email Justin at Justin@ControlledChaosPodcast.com

Controlled Chaos Podcast: A junior high ministry podcast for youth workers!

Thank you for tuning in.  The work youth workers do is hard work, thank you! Thank you for taking time to get a little more equipped to do Junior High or Middle School Ministry in your Youth Ministry or Student Ministry at your church.  Keep it up!

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Topics for this episode:  

Screen time stats for Generation Z.  We got this from the Barna Study on Generation Z.  If you haven’t gotten it, you can get it here.. https://www.barna.com/product/gen-z/

Kurt and Justin sit down with Jeff Walling from Pepperdine University to talk teaching junior high students.  This is the episode you will want to send to your volunteers, interns, anyone that wants to grow as a teacher.

Thanks to Saddleback PD podcast for letting us use their AIRSTREAM for recording this Episode. 

First of our new monthly installment... GET ROOTED with Dr. Andrew Root.  This month he answers "What about the fact youth ministry doesn’t show up in the bible?"   You're going to love the answer.

Whose on this episode? 

Justin Herman, Sandals Youth Network, Host, Speaker, Bald.

Kurt Johnston, Saddleback Next Gen, Writer, thinker, surfer.

Jeff Walling, Speaker, Teacher, chicken nugget lover.

Andrew Root, Writer, theologian, thinker, FUNNY guy.

Things mentioned in the episode:

Controlled Chaos Book by Kurt Johnston

Jeff at Pepperdine

Jeff on Twitter

Jeff on Facebook

Jeffs Books on Amazon

Andrew Root Website

Andrew Root at Luther Seminary

Andrew Roots Books on Amazon

Andrew Root on Twitter

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